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Jonas



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:08 pm    Post subject: Support of plFEP Reply with quote

Since all PsiLOC apps gone freeware I'm using plFEP aigain. But when using it, I get a "problem with getting filename" everytime.
Would it be possible to let View+ and plFEP be friends? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Support of plFEP Reply with quote

Jonas wrote:
Since all PsiLOC apps gone freeware I'm using plFEP aigain. But when using it, I get a "problem with getting filename" everytime.
Would it be possible to let View+ and plFEP be friends? Very Happy


I'll have to install plFEP and check out what makes V+ collide with plFEP!
At the moment I am polishing V+ 1.30 for release Wink
I presume that you get that error message in system screen!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Support of plFEP Reply with quote

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I'll have to install plFEP and check out what makes V+ collide with plFEP!

When pressing Ctrl+C it opens a little dialog in which you need to choose the slot for putting the clipboard to. But I think V+ doesnt simulate Ctrl+C so I can't help there...
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At the moment I am polishing V+ 1.30 for release Wink
I presume that you get that error message in system screen!

Yep =)

Thanks in Advance Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Support of plFEP Reply with quote

Jonas wrote:
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I'll have to install plFEP and check out what makes V+ collide with plFEP!

When pressing Ctrl+C it opens a little dialog in which you need to choose the slot for putting the clipboard to. But I think V+ doesnt simulate Ctrl+C so I can't help there...


Jonas, I'm not sure I understand this"
Could you be more specific?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I want to copy something (text) I press Ctrl+C to copy it. Immediatly after that plFEP is coming to foreground and you need to select a slot to put the text in (or choose simple clipboard): http://www.psiloc.com//img_upload/consumer/plfep01.gif . After pressing Enter plFEP goes to background.
If you don't use Ctrl-C but the silkscreen button instead to copy the text plFEP doesnt comes to foreground...

Just seen: When selecting a folder via View+ the plFEP window comes to foreground for a few milliseconds...

Following things do happen with V+ when plFEP is active:
I select a folder. Then the rename folder box comes to foreground (thanks to View+). View+ then copies the text in the box. But NOW opens plFEP because V+ copied a text. V+ then simulates Enter and closes the plFEP window only (with the text of the rename box) instead of the box. The Rename box, but, still isn't closed. So it displays "Problem getting filename".
=> One Enter is missing. Fixing this will cause problems for non-plFEP users, of course, but maybe theres a routine to see if plFEP is active. Or V+ asks you in Preferences if plFEP is used, then it will make two Enters...

Hope my english is enough to having explained this, that you will understand it *g*
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonas wrote:
If I want to copy something (text) I press Ctrl+C to copy it. Immediatly after that plFEP is coming to foreground and you need to select a slot to put the text in (or choose simple clipboard): http://www.psiloc.com//img_upload/consumer/plfep01.gif . After pressing Enter plFEP goes to background.
If you don't use Ctrl-C but the silkscreen button instead to copy the text plFEP doesnt comes to foreground...

Just seen: When selecting a folder via View+ the plFEP window comes to foreground for a few milliseconds...

Following things do happen with V+ when plFEP is active:
I select a folder. Then the rename folder box comes to foreground (thanks to View+). View+ then copies the text in the box. But NOW opens plFEP because V+ copied a text. V+ then simulates Enter and closes the plFEP window only (with the text of the rename box) instead of the box. The Rename box, but, still isn't closed. So it displays "Problem getting filename".
=> One Enter is missing. Fixing this will cause problems for non-plFEP users, of course, but maybe theres a routine to see if plFEP is active. Or V+ asks you in Preferences if plFEP is used, then it will make two Enters...

Hope my english is enough to having explained this, that you will understand it *g*


I understand it, in principal.
So plFEP seems to function very aggresively, like Merlin. If I remember that was the reason why I stop using plFEP long time ago, because of its erratic behaviour. It actually tries always to intercept any system text copy actions and it may cause problems not only to View+, but to some macros that try to get filename of the current file in system!

Hm! Probably I could make a workaround to prevent problems with plFEP,
but I advice you better to not use plFEP, from the above reasons.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had never such big problems but when I'm now thinking about it, you're totally right. Every Macro or programs that copies text won't work anymore (if the source code cant be edited). Since I really like plFEP I won't stop using it. Okay I need to disable it every time it causes problems, but this could be done with a Macro (is there any way to let a macro know if a checkbox is checked or not??).

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Hm! Probably I could make a workaround to prevent problems with plFEP, but I advice you better to not use plFEP, from the above reasons.

Since I don't think that so many Psionists use plFEP & View+ there's no need to cause you so much work for this problem Wink

Let's see if I go back to Clipboard History in a few days *g*
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonas, try the macro's "clipboardhistory"instead of plFEP. It 's much more friendly. As I don't see a way to attach them here I'll mail them to you if you don't have them.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Henk-Jan,
I already had them installed and used it for several weeks. But I like plFEP more, because it is faster and I like the way to choose a Clipboard-slot instead of copying it to the normal clipboard (which is useful in many ways)...

Greets, Jonas
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kees vd straten



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonas wrote:
Hi Henk-Jan,
I already had them installed and used it for several weeks. But I like plFEP more, because it is faster and I like the way to choose a Clipboard-slot instead of copying it to the normal clipboard (which is useful in many ways)...

Greets, Jonas



Ok Jonas,

But plFEP give you problems, and clipboardhistory doesn't do that.
So...................
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I created a macro which disables plFEP in under one second Smile
But you are right, I'll think about it Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After noticing that not even Mobipocket works with plFEP I gave this program up and settled back to Clipboard History Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonas wrote:
After noticing that not even Mobipocket works with plFEP I gave this program up and settled back to Clipboard History Wink



That's a good choose Wink



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