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Fritz Wächter



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Suggestions for View+ Reply with quote

There are some small problems I have with View+:

1. Since Version 2, when I set a time stamp to 00:00:00 (h:m:s), I always get the message, that it must at least be 00:00:01. Nevertheless everything is done correctly. When doing the same with multiple files, there is no error message.
2. Every time I change file properties, my Shell.ini is changed too. I don't know why, other applications dön't do that.
3. I don't like unnecessary dialogues, eg. when leaving HexView without changes (of course dialogue about saving changes is very meaningful).
4. When compacting files, the progress bar is rather useless: it starts when compression is finished.
5. Isn't it possible to automatically update the screen, after any operations are performed?

After all that criticism: View+ is really great!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Suggestions for View+ Reply with quote

Fritz Wächter wrote:
There are some small problems I have with View+:

1. Since Version 2, when I set a time stamp to 00:00:00 (h:m:s), I always get the message, that it must at least be 00:00:01. Nevertheless everything is done correctly. When doing the same with multiple files, there is no error message.


Easy to fix.

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2. Every time I change file properties, my Shell.ini is changed too. I don't know why, other applications dön't do that.


??? I'll have a look at it. But it sounds strange, definitely. View+ doesn't touch Shell.ini in any way!

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3. I don't like unnecessary dialogues, eg. when leaving HexView without changes (of course dialogue about saving changes is very meaningful).


Shall probably change it. It annoys me too Wink

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4. When compacting files, the progress bar is rather useless: it starts when compression is finished.


Actually, it's a progress bar of self-cancelling end dialog.
Some like it very much. Osg Wink

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5. Isn't it possible to automatically update the screen, after any operations are performed?


In most cases it's done. Was afraid to overdo it. What specific cases?

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After all that criticism: View+ is really great!


You got free copy of View+ S80 Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually, it's a progress bar of self-cancelling end dialog.

Well, I know. It looks nice, but IMHO only vastes time.

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In most cases it's done. Was afraid to overdo it. What specific cases?

After changing file properties! Note+ updates automatically, View+ does not.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, I know. It looks nice, but IMHO only vastes time.


Well, one ESC is not that annoying Wink


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After changing file properties! Note+ updates automatically, View+ does not.


Oh, I see. In principal, I hesitated to refresh View+ in system shell, to avoid ugly flickering. Unfortunately, there is no good way to do it from OPL.
Let me check it once again.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2. Every time I change file properties, my Shell.ini is changed too. I don't know why, other applications dön't do that.



??? I'll have a look at it. But it sounds strange, definitely. View+ doesn't touch Shell.ini in any way!

I have tested once more: it already happens, when I call the file properties (Ctrl + P), before I change anything.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fritz Wächter wrote:
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2. Every time I change file properties, my Shell.ini is changed too. I don't know why, other applications dön't do that.



??? I'll have a look at it. But it sounds strange, definitely. View+ doesn't touch Shell.ini in any way!

I have tested once more: it already happens, when I call the file properties (Ctrl + P), before I change anything.
HTH


Are you pressing Ctrl+P from Note+ or from the system shell (in transparent View+ mode)?

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EDIT: I presume it happens in transparent mode (in shell) when View+ has to set bookmark to current folder
in order to get fullpath of selected file. Shell.ini automatically updates new folder bookmark information (SIBookmark$: ).
Sorry, no other way to get current filepath from OPL Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, from the system shell (in transparent View+ mode)!

Could that 'updating new folder bookmark information' be avoided?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fritz Wächter wrote:
Yes, from the system shell (in transparent View+ mode)!

Could that 'updating new folder bookmark information' be avoided?


Sorry, this is OPL. No other way.
BTW, I don't know anyone who uses View+ in transparent mode Wink
It's been even suggested to me to remove that mode and leave Note+ alone.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BTW, I don't know anyone who uses View+ in transparent mode Wink
It's been even suggested to me to remove that mode and leave Note+ alone.


For me, V+ = Note+ or Note+ = V+
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fritz Wächter wrote:
Yes, from the system shell (in transparent View+ mode)!

Could that 'updating new folder bookmark information' be avoided?


Hello Fritz,

When you work with Browser+ you get the same problem, for that reason I use always Note+
In the settings option "Browsers" and the option "Jump to folder" is pointed to "AlwaysC:\" thats my bookmark folder. When you use the other options, you get the same OPL problem.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BTW, I don't know anyone who uses View+ in transparent mode
It's been even suggested to me to remove that mode and leave Note+ alone.

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When you work with Browser+ you get the same problem, for that reason I use always Note+
In the settings option "Browsers" and the option "Jump to folder" is pointed to "AlwaysC:\" thats my bookmark folder. When you use the other options, you get the same OPL problem.

Well, söme more testing: even with Kees' settings Shell.ini was changed. Finally I also ticked Launch Browser at startup and that was successful. I'll have to find out, if Iike to start directly with Note+ or prefer to use View+ as before. Thanks for your advice!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fritz Wächter wrote:

Well, söme more testing: even with Kees' settings Shell.ini was changed.



Yes Fritz,

But it is an OPL problem, not a V+ problem.
When you work only in N+ (the most of us) you don't have that problem
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fritz,

Here a part from my article I published in 2005


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
ViewPlus version 1.28
The third tab - the first item. Choose your default browser: Browser+ or Note+. Browser+ gives you a screen with a directory structure, while Note+ (N+) resemble the Norton Commander structure. On paper they look alike, but it isn't. Almost at the end you can find three lines "Jump to folder". Select the first one "Selector" or "BMBox". If you choose “Selector” then you’ll see a box look alike Browser+, with “BMBox” you’ll arive in a bookmark box. When you press (Ctrl+G) that's "Jump to folder". When you select a bookmark in BMBox, then you go directly to that folder. By the second line "Jump to folder", you can choose where to begin. When you don't use "Always C:\" as default and you’ll choose Browser+ as your default browser the "Bookmark setting" in the Psion will turn that folder as default where you are with the Browser+ browser. Unfortunately it's a well-known OPL problem.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kees vd straten wrote:
Fritz Wächter wrote:

Well, söme more testing: even with Kees' settings Shell.ini was changed.



Yes Fritz,

But it is an OPL problem, not a V+ problem.
When you work only in N+ (the most of us) you don't have that problem


Thanks Kees for your fervent support Wink
So, to resume, Shell.ini updates itself every time that "Set Bookmark" command is executed.
Macro5, for instance, is doing it regularly, when jumping to folder or getting the current (selected) file name. And many other OPL written apps, too.
So, there i no harm in that at all Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edo wrote:
New FN Macro (plugins) interface:







Edo,

Can or will you introduse this also into V+



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